Whilst I do appreciate the concern and pointing it out, I indeed do not particularly like it when there seems to be somewhat of an demand for justification whilst it truly, imho, doesn't really matter as long as we do install it within quite a timely manner.
Just shy of five months for a bug fix release is not a timely manner.
And which is what you can do as well. You can contribute, you can fork and give back... Whatever you wish.
Or you can be pissed and start shouting about how bad everything is, but that's not really going to help us and nor will it help you; given as you indicate:
Been there, done all of that. Got each of the t-shirts in multiple colours. None of it works.
You say you're hurt, and for our part we're getting nothing but negative feedback which isn't exactly cool either...
Of course it's not. But literally nothing else works. I can't motivate you guys into fixing your own ****** with rainbows and unicorns. And I can't motivate you guys into fixing your own ****** with a big stick either. Nor can I fix your ****** because as we've seen, that doesn't work either. What am I supposed to conclude? That your ****** can't be fixed?
Being constructive and help out would be more beneficial than shouting and repeating the team would be doing a very bad job.
I tried being constructive. Like everything else it didn't work. You can only help a patient who *wants* to be helped.
I rejoined last autumn specifically because I thought I could make more difference by being involved. But given the pressure I was under to not do what I wanted to do and to do what the team wanted (remember: I didn't actually want to work on 2.1), I came to realise that nothing I said was actually working.
That's not nice for the team whom are doing their utmost best to push this software forward and enhance it. (Although, you apparently seem to be disagreeing with that. Which is your right. Doesn't necessarily make it true, though.)
Then, perhaps, their best isn't actually very good, is it?
It does not take 5 months to install a bug fix patch, not even with the problems that were encountered at the time. At *most* it should take an afternoon, even if you had to go and make all the relevant changes (including in the database) by hand. And yet here we are, five months on and the proper fixed version of 2.0.7 is still not installed. I even checked before posting that (because quoting a post with smileys into the full editor when using WYSIWYG doesn't work properly in the first version of 2.0.7)
Am I supposed to tell you that you've done a good job?
Here's something else to ponder. If I hadn't gotten embarrassed at the team last month when I prepared the bulk of 2.0.8, would you have a 2.0.8 to push today? Would someone have spent the time fixing the issues in 2.0.7 if I hadn't?
I know Dragooon fixed that stuff in 2.1 where the code originally came from. Would he have done so if I hadn't pushed for 2.0.8? He probably would, but whether he would have fixed it already is a big question.
This is a huge part of the problem. I cannot trust you guys to get your house in order by evidence of what I see in front of me. I accept the Avast stuff necessarily delayed 2.0.8 in case a legitimate security issue was found but that was weeks ago - and still doesn't change the fact that testing on 2.0.8 could have been done in the interim even with Charter Members. I can't quite believe that no-one tested 2.0.8 search in the month the patch was with you guys.
I think that deep down inside, you also know that statement is very much incorrect.
No, I don't. That's another problem.
If I thought you people were listening to me and taking on board what I was saying, what I've been saying for months or in some cases years, maybe I wouldn't be quite so much of a doom monger as Kindred has labelled me. Maybe if I thought there was any chance of you getting your house in order I wouldn't be so negative. But NOTHING I have seen leads me to believe that's going to happen. Each day I see more and more evidence to support my position.
Big waste. Such potential. Much sad.
-- Mr. Doom
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